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(en) Freedom 6402 25 Jan, 2003 - More on markets and money
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Tue, 4 Feb 2003 04:56:04 -0500 (EST)
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Individualists and communist anarchists both want to end
capitalism and create a society in which people can lead their
own lives. So Joe Peacott is right to argue that we can't apply
the drawbacks of actually existing capitalism wholesale to
mutualism ('Anarchist economics', 11th January). But the
basic points I raised in my article (same page) apply to any
system based on the market mechanism. Indeed, Proudhon
himself raised some of the problems and proposed solutions
to them. I just tried to show that it's unrealistic merely to say
that the 'market mechanism' will solve every problem of
economic decision-making.
Joe says that "some form of exchange is essential to human
society". But human society existed for thousands of years
without exchange and without a market. Even if Joe only
means that exchange is essential for modern human society, I
disagree. I think human society could be based on sharing. In
fact I think sharing is more important than exchange in
making a society fully human.
A libertarian communist society would need alternative
institutions and attitudes if it was going to work, just like a
mutualist society would. We must try to create these
alternatives now, no matter how imperfect they are. In other
words, Joe is wrong to say I wrote off co-operatives and their
history. I just said that, by themselves, they won't abolish
capitalism or the state. Joe's support for occupations suggests
that he agrees.
When he argues that anarchists should support and encourage
working class people to occupy their workplaces and farms, I
concur. But this is at odds with the traditional mutualist
approach, which stresses competition rather than
expropriation as the means of abolishing capitalism (the
communist anarchist position).
To reiterate what I think: anarchists should support
co-operatives and other alternative economic arrangements.
But this should be a complement to direct action and the
building of working class fighting organisations, such as
community and workplace assemblies and federations.
Joe's right to say that much of the trade union movement is
hardly revolutionary and supports authoritarian ideologies.
Perhaps this is because anarchists have usually ignored that
movement's libertarian potential? In many different countries
and at different times, anarchists have succeeded in imbuing
a libertarian spirit in numerous unions. Even many British
trade unions once favoured workers' self-management over
nationalisation. And libertarian unions like the Spanish CNT
and Italian USI created wide scale libertarian experiments
which still inspire - experiments that have brought us much
closer to an anarchist society than the much smaller
mutualist ones.
With the failure of capitalism and authoritarian socialism,
anarchists should be working to spread their ideas. One of the
key ways of inspiring people to change society as a whole is
for them to organise to resist oppression and exploitation
where they're affected by it. By all means let's support
co-operatives, but we must never forget that by themselves
they won't create an anarchist society. Only a mass
movement which builds the new world while fighting the old
can do that. This movement must be rooted in direct action
and solidarity in our communities and workplaces, not at the
margins of the economy, trying to survive in the capitalist
market.
Iain McKay
"Market mechanisms are essential to a working system of
exchange. And some form of exchange is essential to human
society. Price may be an imperfect basis for decision-making,
but it sure as hell beats the dictates of committees and
planners." So says Joe Peacott. But it depends what the
committees are set up to achieve, by whom and whether
they're subject to immediate recall under a system of
self-management. Maybe this is what Joe meant to say.
Planning is absolutely essential to any society, particularly
one as complex as ours is at present, and will be in the
'anarchist' future. Who does the planning and under what
form of mandate is the point. Market mechanisms (a
euphemistic term beloved of capitalist obscurantists) aren't
essential, though private barter-type arrangements may be
made. Planning for equitable provision is.
I'm somewhat surprised that nobody in this discussion has yet
mentioned the participatory economics project (Parecon). If
we're trying to convince people of the validity of our
alternatives - by hell we've been trying long enough with little
international success - we need to get down to the brass tacks
of planning, production, remuneration and distribution. The
tendency to throw the mantra 'libertarian communism' into
any debate doesn't suffice as an economic argument. It needs
defining in order to be convincing.
Roy Emery
South West Solidarity - SolFed
Visit www.southwestsolidarity.org.uk
When people talk about anarchist money, are they talking
about real money which is worth something and has value, or
just about some sort of pretend money, like the toy money
children play with? Or do they mean some sort of accounting
system for materials and the physical production of goods,
which isn't necessarily money at all? If they're talking about
real money which is worth something and has value, which in
the real world is the sort people who want money usually want
rather than mickey mouse money, then in reality this money
must be capable of buying things like land, resources and
goods, and in so doing it must be capable of commanding the
labour of others.
Money with any value implies the existence of property
relations. Property relations involve a process of enclosure
and commodification, mutual coercion and extortion,
accumulation and monopoly by some, with dispossession of
others. At the end of the day, these relations involve some
form of socially imposed scarcity and alienated labour,
otherwise the money wouldn't be able to buy anything of use.
Real money systems in practice only 'work' on the basis of
some people accumulating lots of money while the rest don't
have enough money, or none at all. If, for instance, everyone
were to have lots of money there'd be hyper-inflation and
money would end up worthless. The image of German children
playing with piles of worthless banknotes in the early 1920s
springs to mind. Wouldn't anarcho-money go the same way?
Will workers be any less dissatisfied with their wages under
anarcho-money?
It's a reality that competitive market economics is in itself a
form of civil war that ends up with an elite accumulating
much of the wealth and the majority of the world's population
being impoverished and dispossessed. It's also a reality that,
however temporarily preferable they may be to the
mainstream system, the majority of radical mercantilist
alternatives, like co-ops and LET schemes, fail.
Of those which survive, many have to cling on desperately or
they have to become more and more like an ordinary
commercial business and cease to be any kind of alternative.
As a libertarian communist, I'd much prefer to struggle for
alternatives involving free production and distribution, even
if a bit chaotic, than be stuck in dependence on the misery of
money.
Paul Petard
Money after the revolution? Who knows? I don't. The
important thing is to make our relationships as free from
coercion as possible, and the only time we can do it now. Let
the free society see to itself ( it will, whether we like it or
not). Perhaps it'll find money or a market that's compatible
with liberty. To worry about the subject is a one-way ticket to
utopia.
Johnny M.
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