(en) ex-yu.@.meeting

Mon, 25 Aug 1997 23:35:00 +0200

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## Forwarded message of 25 Aug 97 ## Origin : ZAP_ZG@ZAMIR-ZG.ztn.apc.org ## Creator : MARKO.VUKOVIC@ZAMIR-ZG.ztn.apc.org

marko vukovic \ zagreb.


Hm. We did it. We finally managed to meet. The idea of this meeting arose years ago, while the war was still raging. The need for it was (and still is) obvious. The only way how we could show to each other taht we oppose to what has happened in ex-Yugoslavia. There were some nice attempts of cooperation during the years, some concrete doings grew out of them, but also some conflicts have appeared. That was another reason to meet. There were plenty of potential motives. Unfortunately not that many people felt like that, but more about that later.

So, it was ZAP who has proposed for this meeting, and B.A.T. (Budapesti Autonomi Tarsulas) who have helped us a great deal to put the idea into reality. Our part was to think of a concept, and spread the word, while B.A.T. was in charge of finding a nice place to camp and of dealing with concrete problems such as how to get there.

How it should have been ----------------------- Since there was not to much time to make the concept itself, we decided just to propose for the meeting, and offer the participants a chance to create the agenda themselves. We asked everybody to suggest what do they want to do at the meeting and to prepare themselves in that context. We did that because we didn't want to monopolize the whole thing and chooze the discusions by ourselves, as we had some bad experiences with that in the past. This kind of organizing seemed the closest to direct democraty we could get. Spreading of information was done through 3 local contacts, in Slovenia, Croatia and Yugoslavia. We also created a form, and asked everybody who's gonna come to fill it up in advance and send to local contacts. That wasn't obligatory, but we hoped to get a clue of who's comming and what they want to do. The camping place choozen by B.A.T. was on the river Tisa. The egact spot was a secret, but we were all supposed to meet at two meeting points at certain times and proceede together. All this information was provided in a written form, at quite many addresses. Our estimation was that there were sent between 300 and 500 invitations.

The Reality ----------- Our Slovenian contact didn't get any confirmations, and nobody from Slovenia came to the meeting. We, in Zagreb also didn't receive any written confirmations but got at least 10 verbal ones. 4 persons from Croatia came to the meeting, but we know that more left the country in order to get there. At least two got lost in Hungary since they came to late to the meeting points, and for the rest we don't know jet. In Yugoslavia approximately 10 persons confirmed their arrival. Some in writting, some verbally. At the end 5 of them came, although one day later since they also missed the meeting points. At the end, there were 9 of us from ex-Yugoslavia, 2 comrades from the Polish Anarchist Federation, and 4 members of B.A.T. What was the reason for such a poor turn out, we don't know. Some people said that it was to far for them, others that they're not interested in that meeting (!), some people didn't have the money to travel and some just didn't show up. On the other hand, for last two months we were receiving nothing, but positive responces regarding the meeting, and it seemed that a lot of people will show up.It will remain mistery why it turned out to be just the opposite.

The camping place was nice. A small island on Tisa, near Tisafured. It was almost ideal, only if there weren't so many moskitos. Also, the rest of organisation done by B.A.T. was quite o.k.. Everything was thought of nicely. The only problem was the mess with meeting places and times since some people didn't make it on time. Sure, they were given a phone number they could call and get more details, but this person didn't speak any foreign language, and that was a bit problematic. All in all, nobody should have any remarks on that part of organization since it was done the best it could have been done.

The meeting itself ------------------ In such a small group there was no need for an actual agenda. There were no conditions for any workshops with concrete results such as written material or paintings or flags or whatever, so we just decided to talk a lot. And we did. For the whole time, we just went on talking about so many different things, mainly sharing information and experiences. Sometimes all together, and sometimes in small groups of two or three. Spontaniously. The only conceptual discussion (or more like a presentation) was when B.A.T. and F.A. presented theirwork. That was nice, and interesting. We all exchanged a lot of material, and at the end hugged and kissed and went sepparate ways.

Conclusion ---------- Although the meeting wasn't what we expected it to be, it was somehow a very positive experience. This was the first meeting of a kind, and therefore important just because of that. People who came will hopefully now have the energy to work more to make this meetings more regularly which should also result with some concrete results. At least, that's what we're hoping for. We'we made new friends. Now, some people we cooperated with in the past also have faces and voices. They'renot just letters on paper or screen anymore. It all got more personal. For any other conclusions you should have been there yourselves. This is just a short report anyway.

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