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(en) Ruptura Colectiva (RC): Libertarian communalism and self-government in Syria
Wed, 2 Aug 2017 07:43:49 +0300
We've published this interview called "Libertarian communalism and self-government in
Syria" made by an internationalist comrade who prefered to remain anonymous, but
encouraging to extend the debate about the Syrian revolution along the world. The main
questions on cultural and political relations (and also the radical differences) between
the Arab autonomous councils that have been formed since the revolution start on 2011, the
Kurdish parties organizative forces and the connotation of try hegemonize the Middle East
conflicts of imperialist countries , In a way to understand all advances and gains of this
armed process for a better life for the most important subject in this scenario: the
communities & people. ---- - Hello, Fatima! Please tell us about the local self-government
the Arabs and Kurds in Syria.
Hi, comrade! I think the local level, through the communes, there is some local autonomy
and self-organization at least to make very local level decisions. But in general what has
happened, most structures and decision making are very top down, PYD led and controlled
(PYD is Kurdish party supporters of Abdullah Öcalan, the Syrian branch of PKK). I think
the question is how to support more radical elements and the energy that has been
unleashed now with Kurdish youth and not support PYD project. The Arab project has been
much more bottom up. It is not party led, but it brings together people from different
backgrounds for practical buisness of self-organizing communities. In this way I find it
more progressive. But there are still big challenges, there is still limited participation
of women in council positions.
- Are you an anarchist or libertarian socialist?
I would have replied anarchist, but I am getting less and less comfortable with ... I
think it is the European anarchism that has put me off this self-identification too ...
there is a blindness and an unwillingness to see problems -or understand context - a very
romantic vision and those of us that try to raise awarness of PYD authoritarism get
slandered as Arab nationalists or jihadi supporters ...
- So can you tell me is there ane self-governments in Syria also in shiaa areas like Fua
or in Latackia Alavite?
It is not permitted by the scheme. In the early years of the revolution there was
organization of committees, bringing together Alawi and Sunni, etc. Activists for protests
etc. But self-government would be impossible.
- How powerful are Arab tribes in the Syrian towns? Do they influence self-government? For
example, in Palestine Homula (arab tribe) has a great impact on the lives of Arab
societies almost everywhere. In Syria is it the same?
Depends. In some areas they are powerful. They often participate in local councils in
- What do you think happens if Shiaa coalition (Iran + Hizballa + Iraqi Shiaa + Fatimiyuun
of hazarians + Asad) win the war in the most part of Syria? Is that like Iran's occupation?
I think they will win the war and with the help of the West too in the 'war on terror'.
The Arab areas now being destroyed, from without and within, nearly over and Rojava will
then be targetted. I think we can already talk about Iranian / Ru occupation in large
parts of the country, the regime is finished, it does not exist, it is completely
dependent on outsiders maybe there will be a partition with different groups / powers
having control of different Areas.
- But I am not sure about Rojava permanence, it could be under USA controll more and more.
Yes, but USA is aligning with regime more and more if there is a partition, maybe there
will still be a Rojava but I imagine with more central government control.
- Why do you think so?
I do not believe there was ever a 'regime change' plot. Even under Obama, there was a call
for Assad to go, but never to dismantle the regime. Like in Yemen. There was a lot of
rhetoric about supporting the opposition but in reality it was limited, nothing like what
we see for PYD now. The USA was responsible for blocking other countries sending heavy
weapons to FSA (Free Syrian Army). Now under Trump there is an increasing consensus (and I
think in the West more generally) that Assad should stay in the interests of 'stability'
and 'fighting terrorism'. The USA tried to work with FSA to fight ISS on condition they
drop fight against Assad, they did not get hardly any groups to sign up, so they will be
created SDF (Syrian Democratic Forces is a coalition of the Kurdish militia YPG and Arab
- I have some Arab Militias That information and tribes are fightin wit SDF together today
and there are alot of them.
Yes, of course, there are many Arab groups fighting with SDF. For me, I can not feel
positive about SDF, it is operating as a US proxy force. I think also people make too much
of Arab participation in SDF or PYD structures. It's a political issue here, not ethnic.
(Kurds-like Manbij-, Christians -in Yabrood-, Ishamaili, Kurdish-like, Kurdish, -in
Salamiya-, etc.) Also we have to ask about some of the Arab groups in the SDF. Some of
them are very pro-Assad. The Manbij military council has 2 Arabs on it even members of
parliament regime. I have questions
But of course, there is also a lot of support for SDF from all different groups, they are
fighting Daesh, they are liberating communities from Daesh rule. But I do not think they
will be obidient to PYD all the time ....
Alliances are quickly formed and dimmed in war, based on necessity and what is most useful
at the time. Especially in the North the tribal relations are also very complex and play a
big role. I can not even pretend to understand all of that and the role it plays.
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