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(en) Czech, afed: Fight against unnatural authority (II) -- Completion of the interview with members of the Anarchist Federation [machine translation]

Date Sat, 7 Sep 2019 10:39:54 +0300


Follows on the first episode, which you can find HERE. https://www.afed.cz/text/7021 ---- What about the state itself and its repressive forces, the military and the police? Do you still take them as your arch enemies or are you willing to engage in a debate and compromise with them? ---- Talking about arch enemies sounds a bit theatrical. Why are anarchists so often in conflict with the state and its repressive forces? It is not because they are the cause of all evil. Inward, they are institutions of social coercion and supervision, outward they are instruments of power expansion or defense against it. It is necessary to look at what constitutes the state and what interests are promoted through it. Historically, the bourgeoisie claimed its share of power, for which it needed to stand in the masses of the people, but with whom it did not have much in common. The promise of an equal share of power has proven to be a powerful tool for the corruption of these masses, even though it is at the heart of a foolish fraud. The bourgeois democracy has nothing to do with equal share of power. The fairy tale of free choice is just deleting honey around a mushroom in a game whose rules we have no influence on. If you look under the lid, you will see a range of economic and power interests, links between business and political circles, obvious and hidden pressures of transnational capital. The state is then there to maintain the status quo, ie. he maintained social inequalities, allowed economic growth for owners and investors, and held the scum, the others, in short, whether with sugar or whip. This clearly implies the role of the repressive forces at the disposal of the state. But the masses can also be controlled and used by other means, such as nationalism, religion or consumer orientation. So it is not just a matter of hating the state, but it is necessary to look beyond it. The state is not scolded only by anarchists. Neoliberalism also opposes it. He wants from him the greatest possible support of capital, privatization and commodification of almost everything, abolition of environmental and labor protection, but on the other hand, neoliberalism demands the protection of investment and property and the elimination of radical opposition that could jeopardize the interests of the richest. At a time when neoliberalism has become an ideological hegemon, the question arises as to whether to fight for what the workers' movement has resisted over the last 150 years. To a certain extent this is certainly needed, but it is equally necessary to be free from the idea of capitalism with a human face. The anarchist stateless solution is based on the idea that the historical role of the state is not social but repressive. Without the coercive power of the state, it would simply not be possible to maintain the class division of society. when neoliberalism has become an ideological hegemon, the question arises as to whether to fight for what the workers' movement has resisted over the last 150 years. To a certain extent this is certainly needed, but it is equally necessary to be free from the idea of capitalism with a human face. The anarchist stateless solution is based on the idea that the historical role of the state is not social but repressive. Without the coercive power of the state, it would simply not be possible to maintain the class division of society. when neoliberalism has become an ideological hegemon, the question arises as to whether to fight for what the workers' movement has resisted over the last 150 years. To a certain extent this is certainly needed, but it is equally necessary to be free from the idea of capitalism with a human face. The anarchist stateless solution is based on the idea that the historical role of the state is not social but repressive. Without the coercive power of the state, it would simply not be possible to maintain the class division of society.

In Russia, Belarus or Ukraine, people with anarchist sentiments are still arrested and imprisoned or even tortured. The most well-known media is probably the controversial case of members of the Pussy Riot group, but there are others such as Igor Olinevic and Mikola Dziadok, and more recently the network case. How does it look in the Czech Republic? Do you know any cases of similar persecution?

We can boldly say that all states are the same in this. Active persecution of anti-system opposition, liquidation of autonomous projects outside and against the state, fabricated cases. It doesn't matter if we're in the East or the West. The only difference is how far the repressive components of a country are willing to go. In Russia, there are no forms of torture and forced confessions. In our country it suffices with agents-provocateurs, threats, senseless detention, police bullying, etc. We could see this in the so-called Phoenix case, which ended in a fiasco for the "investigators". But they do not give up and prepare Phoenix II, want to send a few people behind bars at least for publishing information on arson attacks, or for the dissemination of subversive literature.

How do you perceive the strange circumstances of the recent closure of the clinic in Zizkov? Couldn't it be counted on in the end, and rather, when did that happen?

There's nothing strange about it. During the few years of the Clinic's existence, there have been several times when there was a risk of eviction, and it was only a matter of time before it arrived. Although efforts to legalize space continued, it was clear from the outset that the Clinic team was struggling in unequal struggle. The struggle took place especially at the ideological level, the attacks by the police, neo-Nazis and executor just illustrated it. Two ideological worlds clashed here. One craving for alternative, unbridled relationships, collective action, self-government, a city for people... And the other advocating a neoliberal ideology that says private property is holy and the owner can treat it at will, uncontrollable alternatives are inadmissible, the city is here to generate profit and executor is a knight on the white horse of today. On the one hand, a group of poor activists and non-conformist intellectuals, on the other hand, a cohort of politicians, police, senior officials and corporate media. That the Clinic has lasted for such a long time is almost a miracle. The team of the Clinic is alive, but the movement without material background and space is weakened. In addition, they continue to face a liquidation financial attack through the bailiff who led the eviction. At the same time, it is evident that nothing prevented this from being agreed and the Autonomous Center could continue to operate in the Jeseniova Street for several years.

Do you think there is still power in the demonstrations and gatherings created by the Occupy Movement, the Euro May Day, or recently the Yellow Vest, or has the focus of resistance shifted more into the web of social networks?

The power of demonstrations is not worth overestimating. Demonstrations alone will not achieve anything, but they have mobilization potential and are an important signal and means from below to point out a problem. Which of the politicians and economic elites had taken seriously massive trade union marches in Prague years ago, behind which there was no real threat? Unless there is any movement behind the demonstrations that has the potential and determination to touch elites in tricky places, there will be only memory and other frustrations. That is why we think the most important are the struggles that have an impact on the workplace and capitalist infrastructure. Unlimited strikes, blockades ... But you do not necessarily have to wait for the emergence of numerous movements to be successful. Solidarity networks have been found to be effective in helping individuals to recover their wages, for example. Resistance shifted to social networks is perhaps the greatest blessing for the system. It can be supervised, easily manipulated and kept away from physical space. Much easier than struggling with demonstrators in the streets, tackling highway and refinery blockages or struggling with rebellious employees.

French Essayists The Invisible Committee argues that in today's atomized, uncertain and multipolar times, full of misinformation, there is no real power anymore, but rather a simulation. What do you think? Is there any common enemy at all?

We don't want to get bogged down in over-philosophizing. Power always had many forms, and they could change in different ways. Power also acts on many levels. But it is based on inequality, unnatural authority, and through it you can force someone else to do what you want, even if it may not be in line with whether it wants it or not. Thanks to social inequality, capital has the power to maintain and benefit from the wage labor system. Through the state, it has the power to maintain this inequality also by means other than economic means. But power is also manifested through patriarchy, racism, nationalism, religious obscurantism, the exploitation of animals and nature... And so there are many opportunities to corrupt and ensure that even the privileged become adaptable "accomplices". We can focus on and fight against partial manifestations of power, but we should be aware of their context and the fact that all these struggles should be interconnected in a way. It is precisely the fight against unnatural authority that underlies the anarchist idea that enables us to do so.

https://www.afed.cz/text/7022/boj-proti-neprirozene-autorite-ii
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